By this attitude right here, I should not be raiding at all. We over heal every fight. Disc priests dont do well while fighting another disc for shields. With your logic, I would not be performing like an "average"raider should.
I do not get involved in these types of things, I do not like drama. And I will likely get negative responses for speaking my mind. But I wasnt brought up to not say it like it is, so I am going to just do that and deal with what people say afterwards.
Honestly, I have tried to stay out of this. But after reading some responses I feel the need to respond. This whole post is complete Bullshit. Its going come back and bite people in the ass and essentially alienate one half of the guild from the other. This post is going to lead to people calling each other out, pointing out flaws in a CASUAL guild, and show peoples elitest attitudes.
This post is basically the same post that was done last month, and the months before with some wording changed around. Nothing was done then besides people getting pissed off and bitching at each other and officers stating their authority.
At this point, its becoming a bigger deal since it seems that half the guild and officers want to make the guild more raiding orientated and half the guild wants to stay casual and have a good time together raiding and joking around. It seems this has become a bigger deal because we have lost people in the last couple months to "lack of progression or wanting to raid more hardcore" I feel like decisions like this should have been presented to the guild as a whole. While there are officers, this is supposed to be a "family" guild full of friends, there are 30+ raiders here. Some decisions are not an "Officer knows best" and are better presented to the guild to see how they want to progress. Not just as a pole type thing either. i agree with what anksy said earlier, a casual guild is one that is flexible. This post and the raid attitude lately makes it seem as though the officers want to lead this to a semi-casual more raid orientated guild.
In response to something earlier, I call complete bull shit on the whole "no one wants to see anyone be kicked" statement. I can honestly say, i have no problem with mort or will. I was not here where whatever issues happened that required them to be kicked before. As a person essentially looking from the outside in, all i see is raiders, officers, and even friends and family getting on their case. They were both brought back, both are performing well. That should be the end of the discussion. Whatever issues that there were should have been done with when they came back. But it seems like when they get "picked" on, and then try to defend themselves or say something, its not taken seriously or they end up in trouble or with warnings. This solves nothing. It basically is the officers enabling this to happen and leading to the result of those two being given "final" warnings about their guild status. How is this fair? If the officers are going to enable and even contribute to this talk. How is that not "wanting" someone out of the guild? Its basically waiting for that person to either do something to get kicked or get sick of the treatment and leave on their own.
I know how much work a guild is to run, lead, recruit for and make productive. I have been there. It is not fun and extremely stressful. I just think that this is not the best way to go about this. Especially if people who have been here long amounts of time and have seen how the guild was to where it is not are not happy or wanting to be in raids/show up.
This is my 2 cents on the issue.