Ansky

I agree with bash. I was all for it until 'mandatory' days. We don't even have mandatory days for our main raiders, and starting a raid that's got even stricter rules (and a different time zone) just doesn't seem like a good idea. A second group welcoming alts? Sure. A second serious raid group? You'd need recruitment for your specific times and that would be better in a new guild.

Yup, Ansky as heals for BFA

Husband's company rented out a theater to see Rogue One so I won't be at raid.

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I'm good to stay with what I am.

Won't be on until 830 because my son has a birthday to go to 6-8.

So my tooth crown broke in the middle of dinner tonight and I have an emergency appointment at 6pm tomorrow, but I should be on by raid time. If not I won't be more than 10-15min late. Great timing, I know. BUT I AM SO EXITE.

I'm ready!! I'm ready!!

I think it's very obvious when people in the raid are discontent, at least to me since people are quite vocal through TS and raid chat and just get blown off. Putting up a vote on order of killing farm bosses is silly. But going to a completely different raid? Skipping farm gear for progression? Then the raid needs to be involved. Sometimes, when just one or two pople speak up and get immediately shut down, it doesn't mean the problem is fixed. It means that the other people who agree won't see the point in speaking up. Taking a vote when there is a disagreement between the officer's plans and the raiders fixes that. It's never just one person.

I really liked that last week the raid was asked what we wanted to do and went with the majority, even if it was too late. We need to do that more often instead of just being told why what we're doing is best for the raid. Let the raid decide what's best. That way, everyone feels like they mattered, even if their answer wasn't the majority.

The issue was SOO in 2014. We kept recruiting new people and they required more than what we could offer, and the environment went to shit, and it carried over to now. It doesn't have to be that way. We don't need this. We just need to listen to our raiders and have fun playing the game. I'm serious though. Just for tonight, say fuck the rules and do what feels right. It will lift a weight off everyone's shoulders while still having order.

I used to be in a server first hardcore guild, hence my Immortal title and black proto. If when I left, I went to this guild's site and saw this "rules" post, I would roll my eyes and move on. Anyone who wants to app to the guild and sees that post will probably do the same because it's ridiculous and no matter if it's more "guidelines" or "rules" it makes us look like elitist jerks (and not the good kind). The stop signs with the white outlines are optional, right? I'm not worried about myself, but the only people who talk in healer chat, who make this game social and fun, either want to be or going to be gone because of this attitude. What's the point of a guild, then? I might as well go kill bosses in LFR if I want to get loots without talking to anyone. Everyone is so tightly wound and on edge because of all the new rules. How about we scrap the rules and just use common sense? It was an accident? Ok, no harm. Too much talking? Clear the chatter. Making fun of someone? Stop or you get kicked. Late for raid? Sorry, someone else got your spot but you can sit and wait. I seriously feel like we're being parented. "Don't do this or we're going to take your toys even if it's an accident!" /shakes finger Sigh.

All I have to say is that to most people, casual = flexible. This is not flexible. What matters is who you are (a friend), how you play (the effort you put in), and your loyalty to the guild (like posting afk instead of just not showing up). By implementing this you are alienating people who don't want to feel pressured to log in at 730 instead 735 because it can cause them to lose their raid spot, not just some dkp/ep. This will kill the guild as it was. And I don't mean in SOO (because our recruiting heroic SOO is what broke it in the first place). I mean as it was before, when people mattered, not a number. When you guys would do ready checks to ask who wanted to do x and who wanted to do y and listened instead of waving people off like a parent's "because I said so". You are already losing your veteran members because of it, can't you see that? Is replacing your friends, your entire healer base, worth people who log in at 730 and are in raid when it doesn't matter worth shit in the big picture? When we have summons and don't usually pull bosses until 745-8 because of all the prepping that a raid takes anyway? You are really willing to dump your people for that? I don't think the answer is yes. I think this post is BS because you won't do that. Because I'm not going to stress myself out if it's 729 and I just got home. Because I don't expect anyone else to do so. Because it's not worth it. "Then we'll recruit" = "You're all disposable" There is not one healer in our healer base that I would consider disposable for any reason barring dissappearance. This is not ok.

I thought they were closed in normal too. Been a while I guess haha. Ok then, never mind.

Do they, though? For example, the cat pits on Kargath. They're closed on normal but opn on heroic. Doing heroic is more beneficial to us learning not to fall in them, for the kill and for mythic. I'll be honest, I don't know Blackrock, but normal seemed more like lfr with more health and damage, while heroic was more preparing us for mythic.

Normal might give us a couple nights to just relax, have fun, and do some crazy stuff on fights that won't matter because they'll be a joke. It might pick up the raid atmosphere. However, the fact that the ilvl of the gear is lower than heroic Highmaul, I would say it's probably more a waste of raid time than going straight for heroic. The thing is, we will end up clearing heroic (as long as we don't do what we did in Highmaul and skip harder boses for easier mythic bosses), and if it's anything like Highmaul, mechanics we'll need to learn will be on heroic and mythic, not normal. I'm all for clearing it if the officers decide to do so, I'm all for fun, but I won't have a problem if we went straight for heroic.

There is 0% chance we will have 15 people.

Whether it's 15 or 20 people, there's only a certain amount of pieces that will drop, so technically, you're only getting 5-6 people gear. It's irrelevant.

Great! Lets do it! ETA: Lets do it while we're still clearing heroic that is. Once we don't need to clear heroic, it will just be a big waste of time.

We have done this fight on a scheduled raid day on an optional raid night (holiday). I was there because I have Tue/Wed off. We got him to p3 in one night with less than an optimal raid and then I haven't seen him again because I can't come on Sundays. One more raid night and I bet we would have had him. As far as less than 20? We just downed a mythic boss with 20 people and 5 sitting. The only reason there aren't enough healers and tanks on any heroic imp attempts this guild has had in the past was because they were on optional raid nights, and that's why he's not down yet.

Even without Ahead of the Curve, we, as a guild, should kill H Imperator before we go into any more Mythic. It's still progression. Half the raiders don't even have an Imperator kill in general. Saying "show up on an optional night if you want to kill the last boss in the current raid tier even though you only signed up to do Tue/Wed" or "go pug it" is ridiculous. It's too late to do Normal Imperator because no one (important) cared after the optional group got him down, and that's what's going to happen to Heroic Imperator if (and when) the optional group gets him down. He'll be put on the back burner because "progression". Hell, he's -already- on the back burner. Are we really going to go clear heroic Highmaul and kill him when we're in heroic Foundry? Like really really? No, we're not, for the same reasons we're not doing normal now. And the non-optional raiders get the short end of the stick.

If it's on a raid night (like an officer sanctioned guild fun thing) I would be more than happy to do so.

Going to be late because it's been 45 minutes and our food is still not here. My kids are about to pass out at the table and were about to get up and leave to go somewhere else.

Birthday party, might be late.