Varlash

If we are just a casual guild and not a raiding guild then remove the rank and be done with it. So thats the question i have for the officers. What are we.

If they are looking at it like they are being punished istead of somthing to work for then there is a problem

Honestly if people feel that way they are over thinking it waaaaay to much and are just looking for a reason to be upset

Vasicly the way to improve it is make it special. dont hand it out every wednesday. keep it to a smaller number of people. Treat it like you would picking an officer. People you trust to show up.be good and not be toxic. The core raider rank is important to have. it givea recrutes a person to look to for help with thier class. Other raiders to measure dps, talent choices. gemming and enchants. Core raider should be a list of people that when shit hits the fan you can count on.

It shouldnt make you a core raider. not if you do basic raider requierments. Sure you could use it as a tie breaker. But as an actual reason for getting core raider. definitly not. Also what happened in MSV AND ToT is completly irrelivent.

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I would like to voice my conserns of our new core raider system. As of last night we have 16 core raiders and 6 Officers. Thats 22 People who expect to be part of first time boss kills. Leaving 3 spots for normal raider rank and trials. We are basicly back at everybody is entitled to a raid spot based soley off guild rank. Seeing as Officers clearly cant be not guarenteed a raid spot the solution is a max number of core raiders at any 1 time. My suggestion is 10. Thats 16 guarenteed raid spots leaving 9 spots for everybody else plus any non attending officers or core raiders for the night. Core raiders should be guarenteed a raid spot on all progression fights as well as bosses with best in slot loot with the remaining raiders using the boss wish list. That being said here is what i feel should be the critiria for getting and keeping core raider. -75% raid attendance, no excuses. That is 6/8 raid a month. Even if you post saying you cant be there if you drop below 6 attended raids in a 30 day period or lose core raider. - On time to raid -Exceptionally good play, Has a negligable amount of death to avoidable mechanics. 2 maybe 3 a week. -Not toxic to raid environment. This encludes,loot drama, drama, bad attitude, constant talking about non boss mechanics during a boss. -Activly participate in boss mechinics, IE. Rifts, interrupts , puddles, volenteering for towers or siege engeneers. - Have a Microphone and be willing to use it, this allows you to help your fellow raiders out of raid time as well as properly communicate during bosses. - Be willing to build, learn and play off spec if recuired by raid. We should also have a list of mandetory loss of core raider, No if ands or buts, you do these you go back to raider. - Habitually not following 1 or multipal critiria for being a core raider The final point i have for core raider is it should be voted on. Officers choose a list of people they feel deserve core raider (currently 16 people) and make a poll for the raid to vote on so that there is minimal favritism as well as letting everybody feel like they have a say in whats going on in raid.

ftfk has a good point, we must band together and crush the ele shamans Or worship the almighty Heldarram He's so great and those shamans all they do is bloodlust at bad times and ughhhh one day i'll be as good as they are.

pfft, some god dkyou are,cant even make it on time

Mercy is for the weak, makes sense you want it frenchy

They should also have zero pvp gear

Yes but we know the people arleady in the raid are atleast mostly competent, we know nothing about the trials 560 Should be the minimum, thats full normal gear w/ no cloak or warforged gear, or a combinaton of normal/flex, with cloak and a bit of warforged gear mixed in. Non of that is hard to do if you have 14/14 exp which is what we should be looking for since we are now aiming for 11/14 maybe even 12/14 since sigecrafter was nefed a while back

the legendary cloak and full normal exp should be the absolute minimum

i was thinking more along the lines on 560 with atleast 14/14. cause we wont have 3 free loot bosses to toss gear at them. The people we are looking for are leaving guilds nolonger good enough to progress into hard modes

Stealth editing my post. thats some hardcore disrespect right there. Varlash likes nuts

With the first 3 bosses getting the axe from our weekly raids sombody should really post requirments we are looking for in new recrutes, like a Min ilvl and exp. Its hard to tell people to app when from as far as i can tell we have no established minimum requirments posted.

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We are the best get rekt Except myself i suck so bad and i wish i could be more like my fearless raid leader oh how he is so so so so so great. I wish i wasn't French & Moroccan, it's a weird combo that makes me think & speak Italian... Don't edit my posts Held

I cant be replaced you love me too much

Well thats a bit of an issue, id imagin we would have to bump the lowest dps, but then we wouldnt have a raid leader, so i guess bash is our new raid leader?

I have my sisters birthday dinner. No idea how late it will run so i may or may not be able to make it for the second half of raid.

I dont see the harm in discussing the pros and cons of what mythic raiding offers

http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1451666-Patch-6-0-brings-new-raid-structure-to-SoOuess it will have to be discussed sooner rather theb later